What do you think went on behind the scenes? Do you think David was a farm boy or a prince? Dwayne a misunderstood Latino or a half-blood in a time of anger and death? Marko a kid of the Renaissance, or a punk greaser? Paul a gentlemen of rule and structure, tired of following the way of life and rules of society, or just a little brat that wants to have fun? Debate on anything involving the boys.

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I think that all of the boys weren't turned all at once, so I think that they all came from different time periods, whether it be just a few years before 1987, or hundreds of years before. So, what time periods do you think all the boys are from??

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David- Born in 1456, his spirit broken by the current religeon, he took into the dark crafts, not knowing what he was getting into. One day he summoned Max without knowing it, after calling for a master to lead him in the darkness. Max turned him, leaving him for dead without knowing what he made. At the age of 19, when it was normal for him to already be married and one or two kids, he worked on a farm, with a very young wife that already had sired a child for him. He killed his wife, but the villagers had already tracked him down befoe he could feed on his baby. Max found him the next night and took him under his wing, doing what he was summoned to do, only now he was a head-vampire.


Dwayne- Born in 1633, a very bad time to be a half-breed, he was the son of an english Irish farmer and a local Indian girl, he was hidden away and told to never speak to anyone. So when Max spoke to him, it was a surprise to him, as nobody talked to him and he didn't talk to them. Max offered a chance to live as he wanted, to be free like the wolves he painted so much back then. And just like David, he took it.



Marko- Born in 1690, he led the life his family felt he should. Get married, have a bunch of kids and live under god. He led his life this way, having a loving wife and two children before the age of 22, living a humble life as a merchant, selling fruits and fabric. He met David as he was closing down for the night, David offering to buy him some rum, and a few weeks later he had his first kill, his wife and one of his children, the other getting away in time.



Paul- Born in 1745, A gentleman with a wandering hand and a wandering, well, you know! A true charmer, who never walked out of a room without a red cheek, he rebelled against everything he was taught, he kept his hair ungroomed, drank until he couldn’t even straighten his legs, he always managed to bring a women or two home with him. It was on one of these nights that he was dancing on the table that Dwayne managed to get him out of there, taking him home, and started to hang out with him, just to keep an eye on him. On one of these nights, David met him and having heard of him, offered him the wine, not telling the consequences of what would happen. He gladly joined, figuring a eternity of doing what he always does is the best thing in the world.

::Who do you think would be a better father? Paul or Marko?

Great idea Shattered! I love it! Forgive me though, I'm confused. Do we continue to answer all the questions? Or just the most recent? I think it would be nice to be able to answer and put in opinions for all, but, that's just me. Maybe you can explain. I'm having a blonde day. <G> (Hey I am strawberry blonde, so it's legal. *snicker*) Also what is the * for?

EDIT: I am also going to edit your subject title to Lost 'Boys' Opinions, so people don't think we are talking about the TV show Lost, and I am going to move this to the Lost Boys Movie discussion, as it seems to be more appropriate for that section.

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Okay, let's hope I get this right...the basic opinion of this question is when do we each think the Boys were made, right? Time for me to dust off the notes from my fanfic...LOL

I think they were each found in different parts of the country, when Max desired and continued to expand his pack. The script gave the idea that Max was about 300 years old. Therefore, in my opinion, I don't feel any of the Boys could be older than that. Frankly, they all acted so brashly and died so easily in the movie, that I don't feel any of them was really all that old. Michael was invited to their lair far too soon...and Star? Why was she allowed to roam around as a half vampire for so damn long? No seasoned vampire would allow for that in my opinion...

So here's my breakdown:

David- Came from a middle-working class family in Trenton New Jersey. Born in May of 1915, he led an average life until his father lost his job in the early 30's during the depression. Forced out of school at a young age to help support his family, David tried his hand at whatever work he could find, until he got a job as a gas station attendant. His father spiraled downwards into drinking and despondency, often berating him and beating his mother. In March of 1937, at the age of 21, David pumped gas one evening for a rich seeming, kind fellow named Max, who unexpectedly invites him to see a Marx Brothers flick playing at the theater across the street. While watching the show, David is slipped a flask of wine, which he unwittingly drinks...and life is never the same....

20 years later, in 1958, Max and David have moved to Duluth, Minnesota. It is late December, and the nights are long and bitter cold. One night, Max tells David that he must attend to some business out of town. What David doesn't know is that Max is in the process of securing himself a white German Shepherd puppy to train as a Hellhound. He tells David to find himself a friend...someone like him..someone down on his luck, close to his age...someone to make into a brother. Max leaves David with the flask of 'wine', which David dumps out when Max departs. He replaces it with his own blood, thinking he should 'Sire' his own. Then, he sets out to the seedy side of town, where people are more likely to be up and around on a cold night. He finds what he's looking for...or who he's looking for in a place where no sane man..especially a sane 'white' man would venture alone after dark. Here, the population is mostly Native American, and poverty stricken. He heads to a bar, where soon, a fight ensues between an older Native man and a younger half-breed. David observes, thinking the younger man would make an ideal companion. He has that 'look' about him. Soon, the fight is broken up when the pair is booted from the bar. David follows them out. The older man becomes David's dinner. Then, he follows the younger man, where they soon become introduced. 'Dwayne', is nearly 20, still lives at home, and is rebelling because he is forced to look after a large flock of younger siblings while his widowed mother works. He has tried to find work to help out, but his defiant nature quickly gets him fired. David offers him the wine. Then, Dwayne heads home. The next night, the two meet up again after tragedy strikes. When the blood lust hit Dwayne, he accidentally fed on one of his younger siblings. He must hide out and never return home. His crime will prey on him for the rest of eternity.

10 years later, the newly fledged pack head to Denver Colorado. It's now 1967, and the times are turbulent. Marko is a recent high school graduate who learned he didn't get accepted to University. He comes from rich stock, and his father is fit to be tied. To make a man out of his irresponsible son, his father decided to march Marko down to the selective service and sign him up for the draft. Now, Marko has been drafted to go to Vietnam! With his draft card in hand, Marko knows it's fight or flight..and he has chosen flight. He refuses to be cannon fodder in a war he feels the U.S. has no business being a part of. Canada sounds like a good place to go. With his shit packed, he gets on his bike and hits the road...only to get creamed by an oncoming car on a winding mountain road. Meanwhile, David and Dwayne were passing by up above and happened to see this misfortune. Though David had no immediate plans to sire a pack brother that night, he admires Marko's rebellious streak, and can see how he is fighting to stay alive. He offers him the flask of wine, and Marko takes it without hesitation.

For several years, Max struggles to make his pack more responsible. It begins to dawn on him that he needs help doing this. Eventually, after moves to Provo, Utah, and Seattle, Washington, they settle in Santa Carla. It is now the 80's. Max has had it up to his fangs with the stunts his Boys have been pulling. Now, he feels, they should live on their own. Meanwhile, he will start up a business and work on trying to find them a 'mother'.

The Boys are sent out to find their own dwelling. This isn't an easy thing, since they don't have jobs and can't pay any rent. Finally, they spot what looks like a cave. When they get there, they find it's already inhabited by a young runaway. This runaway, a boy named Paul, found himself in dire straits when he got in a street fight with some local youths and got tossed in the clink for a night. When he was released, he found his step dad waiting for him. His mom was at work. His step dad tossed his bag at him and told him...'You're 18...get the hell out. No jailbirds here!"

After some questioning, the Boys learned Paul's story. He'd been raised by a single mom for as long as he could remember, but his mother was a serial dater and had a penchant for hooking up with bums. Paul developed behavior problems as a result, and was in and out of trouble all throughout his childhood. He spent two years of his life in a Christian oriented home for boys that was designed to get his life on track...and it almost worked. His mom was even so pleased with his progress that she promised to go to church with him when he came home. Sadly, when he was released, she went back to her old ways, hooking up with the worst of her boyfriends, 'Bruce'. Paul became disenfranchised, seeking partying and drugs over religion. (Wonder why that Holy water burned so bad, eh?) Soon, he was cutting class and getting into fights. He spent brief stints in juvenile hall, but somehow managed to keep from getting expelled. Sadly, he never graduated high school before that last fateful fight that wound him up in jail and got him kicked out of the house.

Once the Boys heard his story, it was either eat him or share the wine. Figuring he was like them, it was voted to make a new pack brother of him and take his cave over as their new home. And this is my 'opinion', or rather, should I say, story, of how the pack came to be.

How in the heck do you come up with all of that? That's just awesome. See I have a hard time with time periods so it's hard to write about stuff way back then.

I second that! Writing in way older and way different periods can be so hard. Oy.

My on again off again fiction has David growing up the son of Cult Leader in Northumberland England. Born in 1804 he killed to escape the cult (abandoning all religion after a priest told him murder was an unforgivable sin while on the run) and fled to London where he grew up as a pick-pocket and scam artist until killing a nobleman in a bar fight and fleeing to France to escape his own hanging for no other reason than he could get to the states easier in France than in England. He ends up in Mexico where he's shot in the back by Guerrilla Fighters for being int he wrong place at the wrong time and turned in 1825.

I imagine he turned Dwayne first of all the boys, though I'm not sure how.

As for little details about Victorian Era London, I turned to the Penny Dreadfuls. Also, I hate saying this, but Ghost Stories. Ghost stories are great 'windows' into the past and can be excellent starting points for small details. Like off the top of my head, women in the 1600's wore aprons made of wool over their 12+ petticoats. Why do I know this? Because a woman was found burned to death by her fireplace back in the day and it was ruled homicide after her ghost appeared to her brother saying "look how I burn". That and the brother pointed out that at the time of her death she was wearing her apron which as was widely known then, wool does not burn and this was a sort of 'fireproofing' so she could not have died accidentally. Her son was later conviced of the murder and hung.

wow how did you come of with that its wow i dont know wat to say except i love the lost boys i have seen that movie a thousands times and how you describe their lives is it just sounds like them

We-ee-el...let's just say I've been around the block a bit...age wise...snicker! Old enough to have lived through some of it, but young enough to still remember it...hahaha!

But other than that, I've always had a love for history. (Except the boring drivel they poured down our throats in school. ZzzZZzzZZzz. If I had to do a test on it, it sucked!) Maybe I've had several past lives!

I always got the impression that David was old enough to play mind tricks and have some authority, but he's still young and impulsive. All of the Boys are. Somehow, I don't think either one of them has lived out their first mortal lifetime yet I suspect maybe David is getting close. That could be why he is setting himself up for rebellion and going wild against Max's authority. This sort of seems like an ideal time for a vampire's 'second adolescence'...
"Hey, look! I'm coming up on a time when I'd be dead if I had stayed mortal! That really means...I'm Immortal! Nothing can touch me! Screw you, Max! You want your blood sucking Brady Bunch, but I'm going to do some things MY WAY!"

"OH NO!..here comes the antlers! Owwch! From that damn half vampire traitor, none the less! I tried to make him Immortal!....And...Damn...sorry you got toasted too, Maxi Pad. Sucks to be you..."

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I cant say (at least not right now anyway) where Paul came from but I did get some insight into his mentality.
Think of a time bomb, what does it do? It ticks, and ticks, and ticks till the clock runs out and it goes off, explodes.
That is Paul.
Ill see if I can gain more insight.

Actually, you're right MizT302. I found this article on "Santa Carla's Hotel Twilight" that gave a short answer to what Brooke thought his character was like. He said his character was like: "a ticking time bomb waiting to explode" (like you said earlier). And "he constantly has a rock music video in his head, he's like a spastic crazy character."

I didnt read that article, Brooke told me that himself. Eventually I want to ask him where he thought Paul came from when he created the character. Actually I would love to get Brooke to let me interview Paul.....sounds wierd, but it would be a lot of fun to do.

OMG! That would be freaking awesome! So do you mean that Brooke basically came up with Paul by himself? What I mean is, the writers created him as a name, but he created his personality?

Thats what Im aiming to find out.

Good idea MizT! That would be quite interesting indeed!


I dunno... for some reason, everytime I watch the Lost Boys I always feel like the boys weren't that old at all. I think David is older than the other 3 just because he sort of stepped up as the leader (under Max) so I get that vibe from him, but they were all a bit reckless. I mean if they were centuries old vampires, they would have little minions to take care of the Frog Brothers, Sam, and anyone else who got in their way for them. I dunno... to me, it's hard to picture them any older than 10 or 20 years. Like maybe turned in the 60s or 70s. That's just my opinion though. I like everyone's thoughts on this. Good topic.

That would be such a cool interview!

I partly agree, Zombie. I think that Paul and Marko are from the late seventies and that they were turned in a close time frame. That being said, I also think that Daid and Dwayne come right from 1906. It would explain how David likes to brag about the hotel's history, as well. For the most part, they seem a little more mature (If that word could even be applied to our boys) than Paul or Marko.

According to the book, Paul was the last one turned so he could have been turned in the 1960-1980 era.
According to Brooke, Paul is Really Rock and Roll.
That said, I could not get any more info.